Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Bravo R conversion (2)

After the research and armed with valuable information mostly gathered from the PBRC forums, the next logical  step is to decide which way to go.  There are actually several options on how the conversion task can be accomplished.  Of course it really depends on how deep someone's pocket is.

NOTE : Pictures are not mine so credits goes to their respective owners.



Too help me with the decision, I divided the parts needed into two groups, required and optional.

Handlebar -- required
The original Honda Bravo handlebar just slides into the exposed portion of the steering stem.  Just align the holes in both the handlebar and steering stem, insert the bolt into the aligned holes and then secure it with a nut on the other end.  XRM or Raider style handle bars are clip-on types which can be attached at the end of the fork tubes.

Fork Bridge -- required
Locally, this is known as the butterfly.  Machine shop service is needed depending on which motorcycle it was originally designed.  From what I've read so far, if it is an XRM part, the hole where the steering stem goes through needs to be enlarged.  With Raider and Motorstar MSX, no need because it just slides in nicely.

Fork tubes -- required
The original ones attached will have to be replaced with longer ones.

Fork sliders -- required
At least three options are available for this part and also depends whether if you want disc brake or not.  By the way, this part is as known as the fork covers locally.  The original sliders can still be used but it needs to be dismantled and the tubes removed.  As mentioned above, the longer fork tubes will be used instead.  This also means that front stopping will still be employing the drum brake.
Another option is to buy fork sliders designed for Honda Wave100R which is disc brake ready.  More parts will have to be bought if this will be the choice.
The third one is to buy XRM forks which are also disc brake ready.  My only concern with this option is that it is a different design and might affect the motorcycle's handling.  With XRM fork, the front wheel axle bolt is located at the end of the fork itself.  If a line is drawn from the fork tube to the axle bolt head/nut, the line will pass through both.  Wave100 and Bravo forks on the other hand has the axle bolt placed slightly forward.

Disc brake -- optional
A whole kit with all the necessary parts can be bought.  Make sure that the forks are ready as discussed above.  The wheel hub will need to be changed as well to accommodate the disc.  Some parts inside the wheel hub but related to the speedometer will be needed as well.


XRM type fork sliders

Front wheel fender -- required
The original can be retained if the stock fork sliders will be used.  Not sure if the same is true with the other options but I've seen fenders for Wave100 with clips and they looked really different compared to stock.

Probably Bravo or Wave 100 fork sliders

Steering stem -- optional
Can be replaced with the one that comes from an  XRM.  There were reported  issues about the bearings and turn radius.


I'm on a tight budget and the most likely choice for me obviously is the cheapest option.  Keep as much stock parts as possible so I don't have to buy a lot of parts.  I think I would just retain the drum brake.  Now the hunt for parts begins....
Good luck to me!

Part 1

10 comments:

  1. i never expected that i would see my honda bravo motorcycle here in this blog but anyways thanks

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    1. sir ryan apas alin doon bravo mo???magkano gasto mo????

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    2. Thanks a lot sir for dropping by. My apologies for not asking your permission first before posting the photo. I do have a notice that the pictures are not mine. Please let me know which image to remove.
      By the way, how's your Bravo?
      Ride safe....

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  2. Hi Sir,
    Good day.Sir gusto ko po ipasetup yung Honda Bravo ko gaya ng nasa picture kulay blue at black.San po ako pwde magpasetup at magkano aabutin.dito po ako sa mandaluyong.ito po number ko.09225269236.Thanks

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    1. Hi Jonjon,
      Thanks for reading. Unfortunately wala akong marerecommend sa 'yo na shop. Pero yung mga parts sa parteng manibela ay galing sa xrm110 if I remember correctly. Now since phased out na yung 110 at kadalasan xrm 125 na ang nasa kalsada, di ko masabi kung pwede sa Bravo ang parts ng 125. Most likely tyaga kailangan sa paghahanap ng parts.
      Lastly, bike pics you see on this page are not mine (credits to the original owners.) For reference lang talaga.
      Buhay pa naman Bravo ko but nagconcentrate ako mostly sa engine mods. Mukhang stock pa rin sya except sa OEM pipe from XRM110.
      Goodluck, ride safe!

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  3. Sir good pm. Yung mga nagcovert Sir, nagpalit ba sila ng tpost?

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    1. Hi Mark. I think optional na palitan yung T-post. Siguro mas madali kung pati T-post palitan na rin dahil baka hindi match yung orig T-post sa butterfly. Or... baka naman kayang gawan ng paraan sa machine shop. Btw, here I used the term "steering stem."

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  4. tanong ko lang master, ano po yung compatible o' kasya na tpost sa honda wave100 ko, balak ko kasing e convert to sa xrm type yung harap nya? salamat

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    1. 6 years ago, pang-XRM110 madalas gamitin. I can't still confirm if the one from XRM125 will fit. But I saw XRM110 parts being sold in Lazada including the T-post.
      Mukhang marami kang tatabasin sa Wave mo sir. Goodluck sa project mo.
      Yung Bravo ko, tambay na lang muna. Walang time mag-ayos.

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    2. master! pati yung butterfly same pa rin gamitin sa xrm110?

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