Some pricing information for those who would like to convert their front brakes from drum to disc. I'm just curious if anybody would want to do it the other way around. :D
Originally Posted by win_26 ( from MCP )
Breakdown ng Parts/Prices nung nagdisc brakes ako:
Front Shock Housing - P800.00 (Mcp Classifieds)
Wave 125 Disc Rotor and Rims - P1300.00 (Mcp Classifieds)
Xrm Nissin Master to Caliper -P2200.00 (Mcp Classifieds)
Wave 125 Caliper Bracket -P 189.00 (Honda)
Wave 125 Speedometer Assy -P 540.00 (Honda JT)
Wave 125 Bearings, Dust Cover, Collars, Speedometer Retainer - P 777.00 (Honda)
Wave 125 Hub Bolts - Wala ako idea kasi free lang bigay ng mechanic ko.
P5806.00 Total Cost (Wala pa yung labor parts pa lang)
I chose honda parts over yung nabibili sa shops since i want to make it look oem on my wave alpha.
Eto na naman yung quote ng TriumpJT for Master to Caliper
Brake Master - P2745.00
Cylinder Master - P2080.00
Disc Rotor - P1240.00
Hose - P 730.00
Goodluck. In my opinion, its worth it kahit sinasabi ng iba pricey. Pero safety is the no. 1 priority kaya i think of it as an investment.
Below is the breakdown for my own conversion. Note that Honda Wave specially the 100cc series have a lot in common with Honda Bravo.
24 high tensile bolts - to fix the caliper, from a screw and nuts shop in Lipa
250 front fender - from a shop in Lipa
200 fender brackets - same shop as above
??? disc brake pads - from a shop in Lipa, fits XRM and Wave
100 speedometer cable - from a shop in our town, for Honda C100 model
40 side mirror thread adapter - from a shop in Lipa
??? brake light switch - same shop where I bought the thread adapter
1000 - front forks - from an internet seller in Laguna, for a China bike not sure which model
2800 nissin brake set with master, caliper, lever, hub, tire rim, spokes, rotor disc, wheel speed sensor - from an internet seller in Manila, for a China bike not sure which model
It is around 4k PhP for my conversion. I hope to get some money back if I am able to sell the stock parts just lying around in the storage.
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Tuesday, June 26, 2012
Honda Bravo Front Disc Brake Conversion
Several months of study, planning and search for parts finally paid off. My puny but trusty Bravo is now sporting a disc brake in its front. Well, the conversion isn't really complete at the moment but it is more on the aesthetics that needs to be ironed out. But functional, yes it is and it is like a new found freedom brought about by more stopping power provided by the new equipment.
Here's a list of parts that I bought for the conversion
1.) disc brake system (master, caliper, ABS, disc, hose, lever) - i got these items from an internet seller. The master and caliper were both Nissin brand. Dunno about the ABS which is like a small shiny canister between the hose and caliper. Hose needs to be replaced because of cracks. Lever also needs to be sanded and repainted to make it look good. Disc is Ok which is good news.
2.) wheel set - 1.4 x 17 rims with hub and bearings also from the same internet seller. I've got some spare tires, took one and it fitted perfectly on the rim.
3.) speedometer sensor - not sure if this is the correct name but it is the thing that attaches to the hub and where one end of the speedometer cable is also connected.
4.) brake light switch - it was missing in the brake master. It's a safety feature and therefore a must!
5.) bolts and washers - so that the brake caliper can be mounted on the fork.
6.) fork assembly - I bought this from another internet seller. He used it in his own conversion but he eventually sold the the bike with the original forks. I guess from a China bike because it is quite different. Also not a Showa brand.
7.) speedometer cable - the original one for Bravo won't fit.
8.) side mirror thread adapter - the master caliper that also holds the right side mirror has a small hole. The stock mirror's threaded end is a little bit larger. I was thinking of having it rebored or rethreaded and the adapter is quite a lucky find.
9.) disc pads
10.) front fender - it is cheap, the old one won't fit because of the hole placements.
11.) retaining clips or brackets - this is for the front fender. This thing clamps on the fork slider and holds the fender in place.
10.) front fender - it is cheap, the old one won't fit because of the hole placements.
11.) retaining clips or brackets - this is for the front fender. This thing clamps on the fork slider and holds the fender in place.
Whoa!!! I didn't realize that I bought all of those items above. Cash spent is about 4k Php. To recover some amount, I am thinking of selling the parts I removed from the bike.
Things to do :
1.) fix the handle bar - i sawed the metal that holds the right side mirror to give way for the brake master. Some grinding, filing, sanding and painting will be required.
2.) brake system overhaul - i have this feeling the brake is quite sticky. Some parts might be stuck.
3.) replace that brake hose
4.) tune the front forks - i am in the process of doing this at the moment. I found out that the ride is too harsh specially for an old man's back.
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Monday, May 28, 2012
2012 Motorally
I was given this once in a lifetime chance to join the first ever Motorally last January 14, 2012. The invite came via Richard aka YBR1. He thought I am worthy enough to participate after joining the last two Manila-Matnog-Manila in 24hrs events. I wonder if he is reading this but I'd like to express my gratitude to him, nevertheless.
The ride will cover total of 1000 miles or roughly 1600 kilometers passing through several provinces of Northern Luzon as shown below.
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| 2012 Motorally Route |
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| Bravo and Me in Aparri |
Sunday, May 20, 2012
Log Periodic Antenna (2)
Part 2 (2011)
The objective actually was to have Channel 5 watchable since I am quite certain that Channel 2 and Channel 7 would still be clear even if I screw up with the antenna construction. I believe they have stronger transmission power compared to the other channels and besides, we still have the relayed channels which is very near (about 20-30 kms.) Unfortunately though, the towers are in the opposite direction ( south )
Continued in 2012
Today is May 21, 2012 and I can't remember when I wrote the above paragraph. Obviously, it has been a long time. In the spirit of trying to finish all unfinished posts, I'm gonna write the continuation today without pictures. Later on, I'm planning to review everything.
After several typhoons, the antenna is in a very bad state. Instead of being parallel to the ground, the front points downward. The channels from Manila are all gone suggesting a disconnect somewhere. We can only watch the relayed channels but even if the transmissions tower are nearer, the reception is still not good.
May 20, 2012, I got up early to fix the antenna. It is better to do this in the morning while it is not too hot. Rainy weather is coming and there's rain usually in the the afternoon.
I used magnet wire to connect the element for the simple reason that is quite easy to route. I know then that it was not proper way because I read somewhere that the thickness of the wire used as link affects the overall gain. The magnet wire was replaced with steel cable.
While removing the outer cover of the coaxial cable, I noticed that the insulator broke. About 0.25cm of plastic has separated itself from the rest. It seems like the insulator became brittle over time. I proceeded anyway and connected the cable to the antenna.
I pointed it North (Manila). Now the antenna is back in business with very clear receptions for stronger channels 2 and 7. Channels 4, 9, 11 are watchable although a bit noisy. There were also some UHF channels. But channel 5 which is why started this project is still a letdown with streaks that seem to flow from top to bottom. I wonder if it is caused by a mismatch or simply because the signal is just too weak.
Unable to fix the problem using the TVs fine tuning, I tried to find the optimum direction to point the antenna's front end. I used the coconut tree as the reference but I guess the tolerance is wide. The problem didn't go away. I was now beginning to suspect that something is amiss with the cable..
Fortunately, I have a spare coaxial cable. It is bit shorter compared to the one that is currently installed After making the connections, it is now confirmed that the old cable must be replaced. Channel 5 streaks are now gone and although there is some noise present in the picture which appears as white dots, this is way better and doesn't hurt the eyes as much.
The objective actually was to have Channel 5 watchable since I am quite certain that Channel 2 and Channel 7 would still be clear even if I screw up with the antenna construction. I believe they have stronger transmission power compared to the other channels and besides, we still have the relayed channels which is very near (about 20-30 kms.) Unfortunately though, the towers are in the opposite direction ( south )
Continued in 2012
Today is May 21, 2012 and I can't remember when I wrote the above paragraph. Obviously, it has been a long time. In the spirit of trying to finish all unfinished posts, I'm gonna write the continuation today without pictures. Later on, I'm planning to review everything.
After several typhoons, the antenna is in a very bad state. Instead of being parallel to the ground, the front points downward. The channels from Manila are all gone suggesting a disconnect somewhere. We can only watch the relayed channels but even if the transmissions tower are nearer, the reception is still not good.
May 20, 2012, I got up early to fix the antenna. It is better to do this in the morning while it is not too hot. Rainy weather is coming and there's rain usually in the the afternoon.
I used magnet wire to connect the element for the simple reason that is quite easy to route. I know then that it was not proper way because I read somewhere that the thickness of the wire used as link affects the overall gain. The magnet wire was replaced with steel cable.
While removing the outer cover of the coaxial cable, I noticed that the insulator broke. About 0.25cm of plastic has separated itself from the rest. It seems like the insulator became brittle over time. I proceeded anyway and connected the cable to the antenna.
I pointed it North (Manila). Now the antenna is back in business with very clear receptions for stronger channels 2 and 7. Channels 4, 9, 11 are watchable although a bit noisy. There were also some UHF channels. But channel 5 which is why started this project is still a letdown with streaks that seem to flow from top to bottom. I wonder if it is caused by a mismatch or simply because the signal is just too weak.
Unable to fix the problem using the TVs fine tuning, I tried to find the optimum direction to point the antenna's front end. I used the coconut tree as the reference but I guess the tolerance is wide. The problem didn't go away. I was now beginning to suspect that something is amiss with the cable..
Fortunately, I have a spare coaxial cable. It is bit shorter compared to the one that is currently installed After making the connections, it is now confirmed that the old cable must be replaced. Channel 5 streaks are now gone and although there is some noise present in the picture which appears as white dots, this is way better and doesn't hurt the eyes as much.
Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Pacquiao and Gay Marriage
Some people overreacted when PacMan made a comment and said that he doesn't agree with gays getting married. What they missed is that he also said that they should be loved irregardless of their sexual orientation.
If the reference is the Bible, for sure it doesn't allow this kind of union. Pacquiao believes in It and it is therefore expected for him to echo what is written in the Book. But denouncing the gay community, I think he did not.
God made us individuals with freedom to choose and decide what to do. But He also prepared for us some guidelines on how we should live our lives. I myself will not condemn anyone simply because I don't have the right. I am far from being perfect and has committed violations against His rules.
But I believe that there is life after death and we will all be accountable to our deeds. God will be the judge and the Bible will be the reference.
If the reference is the Bible, for sure it doesn't allow this kind of union. Pacquiao believes in It and it is therefore expected for him to echo what is written in the Book. But denouncing the gay community, I think he did not.
God made us individuals with freedom to choose and decide what to do. But He also prepared for us some guidelines on how we should live our lives. I myself will not condemn anyone simply because I don't have the right. I am far from being perfect and has committed violations against His rules.
But I believe that there is life after death and we will all be accountable to our deeds. God will be the judge and the Bible will be the reference.
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